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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby JTracyII » Mon Jun 07, 2021 6:46 am

The reason for my issue is the KO system. The system is between the action and the stock, so that upon firing some of the recoil is absorbed by allowing from the action forward to shift back a bit. The idea being that the recoil is absorbed into the stock instead of the shooters shoulder, if that makes since. When I would shoot everything forward of my face would shift back some and it would tap me on my cheekbone. If I held my head up a little it didn’t happen, but I didn’t want to always be thinking about that as I felt I would either develop a flinch or miss shots due to a lack of focus because of a divided mind.

Some people seem to really like this shotgun and the KO system. It wasn’t for me for these reasons. I’d suggest if your looking at it that you definitely shoot one before buying. If you do a search on the gun you will find others have experienced “cheek slap” as well. Not everyone though. Maybe it’s a fit issue. For me the “Kick-Off System” was the “Kick-Face System”.

AG, I thought about the New A5, but wondered if that light weight would cause recoil to pound the shoulder with hot loads?
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby orhunter » Mon Jun 07, 2021 8:16 am

I have not shot the new A-5 with hot loads but the actual fit of the gun is exactly the same as the old guns and I’ve never been bothered by recoil with them. The guns that hurt the most are O/U’s. Why they’ve become popular is beyond me.
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby jlw034 » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:30 am

Glad you like the Maxus 2. It's on my short list along with Xtreme plus and the Fabarm Waterfowler.

I shoot my 686 better than any other gun, wish I could snap my fingers and make it a gas gun for ducks.
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby JTracyII » Mon Jun 07, 2021 9:33 am

orhunter wrote:I have not shot the new A-5 with hot loads but the actual fit of the gun is exactly the same as the old guns and I’ve never been bothered by recoil with them. The guns that hurt the most are O/U’s. Why they’ve become popular is beyond me.


That is good to hear. I believe that the old A5 that you have is considerably heavier than the new one. I figure this would impact felt recoil.
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby AverageGuy » Tue Jun 08, 2021 12:51 pm

JTracyII wrote:
orhunter wrote:I have not shot the new A-5 with hot loads but the actual fit of the gun is exactly the same as the old guns and I’ve never been bothered by recoil with them. The guns that hurt the most are O/U’s. Why they’ve become popular is beyond me.


That is good to hear. I believe that the old A5 that you have is considerably heavier than the new one. I figure this would impact felt recoil.


My new A5 is light and lively in a 26 inch barrel 12 gauge. Very natural shooting gun for me. Advertised as 7 lbs but feels lighter in my hands. The kind of gun I prefer for waterfowl.

3.5 inch shells are brutal for recoil and I don't use them. The recoil with 3 inch shells does not bother me at all.
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby orhunter » Tue Jun 08, 2021 1:19 pm

Felt recoil can be reduced by design and fit so weight doesn’t always have the same effect. Actual recoil and felt recoil can be significantly different. A gun that has more muzzle rise will have more felt recoil than a gun that has less.
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Re: Your go to Waterfowl Gun?

Postby JTracyII » Tue Jun 08, 2021 2:58 pm

orhunter wrote:Felt recoil can be reduced by design and fit so weight doesn’t always have the same effect. Actual recoil and felt recoil can be significantly different. A gun that has more muzzle rise will have more felt recoil than a gun that has less.



That makes sense.
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