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I wonder if you go through the list of clubs who is at the top? Is it conformation, agility enthusiats or is it those that are hunting enthusiasts? I t would be interesting to see as I would bet depending on whom is the secretary and chairperson are might reflect in the type of judges a test secures?You know, the AKC puts the burden of setting the quality of Judges on the CLUBs. They specifically state to perspective event secretarys and chairman, to find able, well rounded, qualified individuals to Judge their events, it's the Clubs decision.
you may shoot a timberdoodle or grouse your dog pointed and then went in on. You may want your dog to have a delayed chase on a bird. You may want your dog to break at the shot to recover game. Would I want to hunt behind a dog like this that produces birds you bet I would.
NO...not me...YOU certainly may. If this is your template just don't TEST. You won't PASS
My template is to hunt more often than test,
. True manners are manners, do your dogs work on wild birds like they do with planted birds? Come on be honest.Preaching to the choir about wild birds, HOWEVER, manners are MANNERS, a well trained Pointing Dog is AS important as good grounds, good birds and good shooting in my world
What is an A teamer?When we hunt wild birds, my A-TEAMers and mysefffff, our dogs are working on autopilot, MANNERFUL, polite, respectful of us and the chase, we just take in the views and try to shoot straight...
. It certainly does taste better!A well handled, pointed, shot wild bird, bagged, even TASTEs better, methinks
. Beauty my man is in the eye of the beholder.BEAUTY is a JOY to behold....UGLY is just plain UGLY.
Steve Anker wrote:Yo uplandguy
Have a bran muffin...you're far too uptight about your loose dogs. If your dogs bump break chase knock or whatever, if it suits you...that's all that matters. Why do you need to compare and contrast, not needed, go into your bird woods this year, have fun, shoot straight, get the dogs off the couch.
What I/we/my A-TEAM and my circle hold as a standard doesn't interfere with your day in the woods, I assure you.
What's an A-TEAM? I honestly think that in this country MILITARY SERVICE should be mandatory, if for nothing else but to get young folks heads together. (IMHO)
Wild birds vs planted? A staunch point izzz a staunch point my brother, in the "planted" birdfield or deep in the alder forest. Little difference with my bunch.
Testing-all types, if it doesn't suit you FINE, don't run. You may never see me working a Border Collie thru a herding course, but it doesn't mean I feel the need to knock em.
(actually, I think the herding group testing is awesome stuff, just not my forte')
I wonder if I can get one to POINT....
Gene Nelson once told me that the way he looks at it, every dogs starts the brace with straight tens. Throughout the course is when the deductions are noted, and after the run is completed he gives an honest evaluation in accordance with the standard.
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